{"id":921,"date":"2017-11-18T18:08:36","date_gmt":"2017-11-19T02:08:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.obviouseditor.com\/?p=921"},"modified":"2023-08-13T19:59:48","modified_gmt":"2023-08-14T02:59:48","slug":"proven","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/921\/","title":{"rendered":"Proved \/ proven"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"quo\">Not all behavior descends to Nixon\u2019s level, particularly when so little of it is <span class=\"highlighter\">proved<\/span>. &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2017\/11\/18\/opinion\/sunday\/what-if-ken-starr-was-right.html?ribbon-ad-idx=4&#038;src=recg&#038;mabReward=ART_CTM1&#038;recid=0wYQ4tyKQnpgvURzN3NUxC1WhAX&#038;recp=3&#038;module=Ribbon&#038;version=origin&#038;region=Header&#038;action=click&#038;contentCollection=Recommended&#038;pgtype=article\">NYT (comments)<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8216;<span class=\"highlighter\">Proved<\/span>&#8216; or &#8216;<span class=\"highlighter\">proven<\/span>&#8216;? Which one? Does it matter?<\/p>\n<div id=\"chartdiv-003\" class=\"oe-graph\"><\/div>\n<p><iframe name=\"ngram_chart\" src=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/ngrams\/interactive_chart?content=proved+wrong,+proven+wrong&#038;year_start=1950&#038;year_end=2019&#038;corpus=en-2019&#038;smoothing=3\" width=100% height=100% marginwidth=0 marginheight=0 hspace=0 vspace=0 frameborder=0 scrolling=no><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"margin-top:30px\">I think the NGRAM shows that &#8216;proved wrong&#8217; is proven right. Who knew? But &#8216;proven&#8217;, after a slow start, has caught up to &#8216;proved&#8217;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"quo\">Keylor Navas has <span class=\"highlighter\">proved<\/span> he deserves to be Real Madrid&#8217;s first-choice goalkeeper. &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fourfourtwo.com\/news\/navas-has-proved-he-deserves-be-real-madrid\">FourFourTwo<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"quo\">They narrowed down their findings to 33 foods <span class=\"highlighter\">proven<\/span> to ease rheumatoid arthritis symptoms and slow down the progression of the disease. &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.medicalnewstoday.com\/articles\/320029.php\">Medical News Today<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>In science reporting, both forms figure equally. &#8216;Have proved&#8217; is commonplace and efficient:<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"quo\">It was Charles Darwin who originally suggested that birds use their wings not only to fly but to communicate as well. Now, approximately 150 years later, scientists have <span class=\"highlighter\">proved<\/span> him right, and in the process explained why pigeons make such a racket taking off. &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/science\/2017\/11\/09\/darwins-theory-bird-flapping-proved-right-explains-pigeons\/\">Telegraph<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>In certain constructs, &#8216;is proven&#8217; seems more refined:<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"quo\">Woodward is convinced it is <span class=\"highlighter\">proven<\/span>, replicated and will scale to fast interstellar travel. &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nextbigfuture.com\/2017\/11\/mach-effect-propulsion-2016-it-is-proven-replicated-and-will-scale-to-fast-interstellar-travel.html\">Next Big Future<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>He is talking about mach effect propulsion.<\/p>\n<p>Proved or proven? It really doesn&#8217;t matter. Write it, then read it aloud and go with whichever is pleasing to the ear.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"quo\">Goodall discusses what it\u2019s like to be <span class=\"highlighter\">proven<\/span> correct all these years later, as well as why she thinks the argument that trophy hunting is a valuable way to fund conservation is &#8216;rubbish&#8217;. &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/news.mongabay.com\/2017\/11\/audio-dr-jane-goodall-on-being-proven-right-about-animals-having-personalities-plus-updates-direct-from-cop23\/\">Mongabay<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>In the following radio interview, with Jane Goodall, the announcer has chosen <span class=\"highlighter\">&#8216;proven&#8217;<\/span> at the 2:20 mark. Jane herself uses &#8216;<span class=\"highlighter\">&#8216;proved&#8217;<\/span>&#8216; at 7:10:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/5947786\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/autoplay\/no\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/3e5014\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><script src=\"http:\/\/ajax.googleapis.com\/ajax\/libs\/jquery\/1.11.1\/jquery.min.js\" type=\"text\/javascript\"><\/script><br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"\/go\/am\/amcharts\/amcharts.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"\/go\/am\/amcharts\/serial.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"\/go\/am\/amcharts\/themes\/none.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"\/go\/ngram\/p\/proven.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Not all behavior descends to Nixon\u2019s level, particularly when so little of it is proved. &#8211; NYT (comments) &#8216;Proved&#8216; or &#8216;proven&#8216;? Which one? Does it matter? I think the NGRAM shows that &#8216;proved wrong&#8217; is proven right. Who knew? But &#8216;proven&#8217;, after a slow start, has caught up to &#8216;proved&#8217;. Keylor Navas has proved he &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/921\/\" class=\"more-link\">See entire post<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Proved \/ proven&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[48,5],"tags":[33,34],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/921"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=921"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/921\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3076,"href":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/921\/revisions\/3076"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=921"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=921"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informalenglish.com\/go\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=921"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}